Date: 31 March 1982 22:26-EST From: David C. Plummer Sender: DCP0 at MIT-MC Subject: 4**3,5**3 To: CUBE-LOVERS at MIT-MC NO, NO, NO !!!! You CANNOT treat 1 of the center slices of a 4x4x4 as a center of a 3x3x3. Suppose you did this for one axis, and for the other two axes you treated both "centers" as a unit (and therefore the center slice of a 3x3x3). Now take one of the axes with a double width center, and rotate an outer slice 180 degrees. Suppose the front face looked like this: +####+####+####+####+ # # # | # # # # | # +####+####+####+####+ # # # | # # # # | # +----+----+----+----+ # # # | # # # # | # +####+####+####+####+ # # # | # # # # | # +####+####+####+####+ You rotate the top slice and the front face now looks like: +####+####+####+####+ # | # # # # | # # # +####+####+####+####+ # # # | # # # # | # +----+----+----+----+ # # # | # # # # | # +####+####+####+####+ # # # | # # # # | # +####+####+####+####+ Notice that the top layer does not go very well with the bottom 3 layers. The 5x5x5 has similar problems. I think the right way to solve both the 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 at first is to use mono-flips. Once conceptually understood, they are very powerful and easy to visualize.